> >From the man page: Isn't quoting documentation on a bug mailing list like, um, trusting that there aren't bugs in the first place? I mean the vendors ship systems which allow worldwide root access. How do you know some hacker didn't *write* the man page you are reading... I always wanted to ship a security patch to 100 random companies and see how many sites would install it. Just make it look official and... George -- George R. Boyce, President, The Computing Support Team, Inc. 315-453-2035, FAX: 315-453-2395, george@csteam.com, http://gems.com/ 200 Elwood Davis Rd, Suite 102, Liverpool NY, 13088